Rule Proposal 27

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Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:40 pm

This proposal defines an active player as a player that has voted at least once.

If a proposal has at least half of the active players voting yes on it, and no one voting no, then it passes, regardless of the deadline.

/* Proposer Notes:
My opinion is that if half of the players all agree on something, then most likely it is going to pass, regardless of how much longer until the deadline. We can pass the proposals faster.
*/


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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Cybele on Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:00 pm

Vote AYE
This can help speed the process up. Nice touch not including a majority of NAYs. I approve of that, because (imo) it's easier to convince someone to change their mind for the proposal than against. Of course, someone else might convince me otherwise... Wink
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:05 pm

Well, with this proposal you would need, not only a majority, but an unanimous vote, a complete agreement to activate its ability. Even 1 person who publically disagrees will cause other proposals to not pass earlier.

That won't work for Nays, since the proposer auto-votes yes, although I guess we could count the proposer as an exception.

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Cybele on Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:06 pm

chenhsi wrote:That won't work for Nays, since the proposer auto-votes yes, although I guess we could count the proposer as an exception.
The proposer could be convinced to disagree, seeing as it is still possible to change your vote.
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  UltimaAvalon on Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:01 am

Vote: No

This is a horrible idea

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Cybele on Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:02 am

Bah! Why?
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Snix on Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:07 am

vote yes
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  pyrodwarf on Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:57 am

vote:no
I think the definition of active player needs to be tweaked a bit. I could vote once then never come back.

Also, I would be more inclined to vote yes if it were a 2/3 majority.
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  UltimaAvalon on Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:10 am

Cybele wrote:Bah! Why?
Suppose we get to a point where Nomic Political Parties form. This rule could be used to members of a party to zerg rush their votes onto Proposals that favor them before members of the other parties can have any say

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Cybele on Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:22 am

Fair enough.
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:17 pm

Pyrodwarf: We can amend the proposal. Do you see any other objections?

UltimaAvalon: True, but I doubt that any party would have a majority of the players.

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  pyrodwarf on Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:40 pm

Well, UA brings up a good point. The definition of active player needs to be changed, IMO. More like: "A player that has posted in the last week."
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:46 pm

What about a player that has voted in the last week?

And we can always amend the proposal.

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:52 pm

pyrodwarf wrote:Also, I would be more inclined to vote yes if it were a 2/3 majority.

Have there been any proposal that has passed with a 2/3 majority? Only like 1/2 and those were close enough to the deadline.

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  animorpherv1 on Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:35 pm

vote:NO because atm, if you look straight at the Player's list, a certain amount of people don't have a single post. Also, when it's night time 9where I live), is when all of the people that are active become active, so my proposals would be gone before I could defend them.
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  BBM on Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:36 pm

pyrodwarf wrote:vote:no
I think the definition of active player needs to be tweaked a bit. I could vote once then never come back.

Also, I would be more inclined to vote yes if it were a 2/3 majority.

I agree with 2/3s completely.

Vote: No

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:11 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:vote:NO because atm, if you look straight at the Player's list, a certain amount of people don't have a single post.

Which is why only players who have posted count.

animorpherv1 wrote:Also, when it's night time 9where I live), is when all of the people that are active become active, so my proposals would be gone before I could defend them.

Umm... this proposal only affects proposals with yes votes, not ones with no votes.

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Cybele on Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:31 pm

Yeah, they could pass prematurely, but not fail before you get to defend them.
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:26 pm

Currently 3-4.

We can always amend this later you know. The only argument I see right now is the 2/3 as opposed to 1/2, all the arguments have been defeated.

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Cybele on Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:28 pm

Well, if you need to repropose, I'll vote aye again.
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  Mokina on Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:20 pm

Vote: No

Keep it simple. No need to rush change.
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  xelada on Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:38 pm

Aye

sounds good
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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  HPew on Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:53 pm

Vote: Yes

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  skitzer on Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:32 pm

Vote: No

4-7, I believe.

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Re: Rule Proposal 27

Post  chenhsi on Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:52 pm

This proposal has failed 5 to 6.

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